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The Property Brothers Flip A Page On Their TV Triumphs

The Property Brothers, Drew and Jonathan Scott, have a new memoir called <em>It Takes Two.</em>
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The Property Brothers, Drew and Jonathan Scott, have a new memoir called It Takes Two.

Drew and Jonathan Scott struggled for years to break into the entertainment industry. So the twin brothers decided to open a real estate services company to pay the bills as they continued trying to become stars.

Then, they got an idea — why not combine their two pursuits? And thus, the Property Brothers were born.

Drew and Jonathan now host the smash-hit home renovation show Property Brothers (and its spinoffs) on HGTV, where they do about 50 actual renovations a year for television cameras. Their journey is documented in their new memoir It Takes Two: Our Story.

Interview Highlights

On the start of Property Brothers

Drew Scott: So way back, Jonathan and I were – we were entertainers as kids. We were actors; we did theater, musicals; we ended up getting into commercials and some TV spots. Actually, one of our jobs, we were clowns. We had all this energy, so our parents figured, 'Go be clowns, and get rid of the energy, so by the time you come home you're calmed down a bit.' ... You cannot take yourself too seriously. And don't get the greasepaint in your eyes, because damn, that hurts.

Jonathan Scott: Oh that hurts. Hard to get out.

Drew: So, anyway, we were entertainers as kids, and we wanted — we had these aspirations. Jonathan wanted to do more magic, and I wanted to do more acting and directing for scripted. But we didn't want to be struggling artists, so we actually got into real estate as a way to fund our creative endeavors right out of high school, back in the mid '90s. And I started getting more host auditions as a real estate expert instead of acting auditions, and that's where it all started—

Jonathan: His very first role that he landed as a host, he calls me up, he's like, 'Hey Jonathan, I landed a show!" And I'm like, 'Oh my gosh, that's amazing, what's the show?' He's like, 'It's called Realtor Idol. It's like American Idol for realtors.' ... And I was like, 'That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.'

Drew: I'm glad that didn't take off, and then the next show—

Lulu Garcia-Navarro: What was that even — show — about? Like, would people stand up on stage, and like, what, show you pictures of homes?

Drew: Who doesn't like a singing realtor? I mean, come on. So I told that production company—

Jonathan: How do you grade and give scores to an amortization table?

Drew: I don't know, it's sexy amortization. Um, but yea, so that's when I was talking to the production company. I let them know that I had a brother who's a contractor. I let them know what we were doing with clients. What you see on Property Brothers is what Jonathan and I were doing with clients at the time. They liked the idea and they wanted to pitch us.

On the 'open concept' design that has become a signature

Drew: So a lot of our design, when Jonathan and I work with clients, we're being realistic for their lifestyle and what they're looking for.

Jonathan: The big thing is, when we say open concept – and we've even had, we were doing the Today show, co-hosting the Today show a couple months back, and somebody chased us down the street when we were in our car yelling, 'Open concept sucks! Open concept sucks!' Like, some people passionately are averse to, have an aversion to—

Lulu: I work in an open plan office, so I am against it!

Jonathan: Keep in mind, open concept is just supposed to be between the kitchen, dining room and living room. Those are the entertaining areas, where it's nice to have sight lines, you don't want to feel like you're stuck in the—

Drew: No toilet in the middle of the room.

Jonathan: But yea, if you have a family, there should be another area where there's kids' toys, and you can close off that noise and mess. You know, open concept bathrooms are not the greatest.

On critiques of HGTV 'house-flipping' programming for being unrealistic or irresponsible

Jonathan: We've heard it all — the positive, the negative — and when you are dealing with the largest asset in most peoples' lives, obviously emotions can get involved. The one thing I would say, you know, there are some shows out there that are not too realistic, or there have been shows over the years that have said, you know, they're fake, and they just make it pretty to look at for camera, but in reality the work is terrible. Well, we've been lucky enough and fortunate enough that we have a high standard with everything that we do, and we've never really had that flak.

The only thing that people say is the prices. They say, 'How can you renovate an entire house for $50,000?' Well, we don't. On Property Brothers, for example, we're only – for the show, we're doing three to four rooms. So the budgets and timelines you see are for the three to four rooms. Which, we actually say it on the show, but sometimes people, you know, they'll miss that.

Drew: It's also the same thing too – there was a story I read one time that some shows, at the end of it, they back the truck up and take all the furniture stuff away. I'm like, 'That's the biggest slap in the face.' Like, I could have been so--

Lulu: Yea, here's your dream home. Uh, sorry, the truck's here.

Drew: [beeping truck reversal noises] So, no. We really become close with the families. And that's the thing, too. I know it's a stressful experience, 'cause you're taking what would normally be months and months and months of renovation, and you're cramming it into an eight-week timeline, and a 45-minute show. So it's hard to discuss all the complexities of a construction project in 42 minutes, but we try to make it as authentic as we can.

Eric McDaniel, Oliver Dearden and Ed McNulty produced and edited the audio of this interview. Patrick Jarenwattananon adapted it for the web.

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Lulu Garcia-Navarro is the host of Weekend Edition Sunday and one of the hosts of NPR's morning news podcast Up First. She is infamous in the IT department of NPR for losing laptops to bullets, hurricanes, and bomb blasts.