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This week in science: A Saturn moon's ocean, chameleon eyes and energy used for AI

By Emily Kwong,
Regina G. Barber
Published November 13, 2025 at 3:24 PM MST

Emily Kwong and Regina Barber of NPR's Short Wave discuss new findings about the ocean of Saturn's moon Enceladus, the secrets behind chameleons' eye movements and the energy use behind AI computing.

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Emily Kwong
Emily Kwong (she/her) is the reporter for NPR's daily science podcast, Short Wave. The podcast explores new discoveries, everyday mysteries and the science behind the headlines — all in about 10 minutes, Monday through Friday.
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Regina G. Barber
Regina G. Barber is Short Wave's Scientist in Residence. She contributes original reporting on STEM and guest hosts the show.